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  1975 failed prediction?

  by Garrett in

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  heyo,.

  your favorite garrett here.

  so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

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  Bungi Bill

  Research the Watchtower March 15, 1980 pages 17-18 U.S. version

  Yearbook 1980 pages 30-31 U.S. version. As well as what was written in the Watchtower in 1976.

  Whatever for? That was trying to be wise after the event. A bloody lot of use it is to close the stable door after the horse has bolted for it!

  That 1976 Watchtower article that chastised those who had sold up their homes and pioneered pre-1975 might have achieved some good had it said the same thing several years beforehand.

  Are we all supposed to be impressed by the fact that the WTS did finally say something - just several years too late to prevent people from harming themselves?

  Bill.
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  Have anyone here ever told a elder he is full of poop.

  by James Mixon in

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  i wonder what the report to the branch would say.. he said " me, you and the wt organization is full of poop".. do we df him?

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  Bungi Bill

  James Mixon,

  Good one!

  Bill.
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  1975 failed prediction?

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
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  heyo,.

  your favorite garrett here.

  so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

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  Bungi Bill

  There is a scripture which the wts has never quoted. "No man knows the hour nor the day..."

  Zeb,

  They actually did quote that scripture in a 1968 magazine article that was entitled Why Are You Looking forward to 1975?:

  - in which they warned that this was "not the time to hide behind" that particular scripture.

  Bill.
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  Have anyone here ever told a elder he is full of poop.

  by James Mixon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wonder what the report to the branch would say.. he said " me, you and the wt organization is full of poop".. do we df him?

  ?.

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  Bungi Bill

  I certainly felt like doing so on a number of occasions, but was just a little more diplomatic about it than that. Mind you, I made sure the meaning was abundantly clear whenever I did so!

  Footnote: The definition of diplomacy

  "Diplomacy is the ability to tell somebody to go to Buggery, but in such a manner that they actually look forward to that journey."

  (Working with a crew of rather roughneck guys who are mostly bigger than I am, I am presently perfecting the art of diplomacy!)

  Bill.
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  Huge Shift in Doctrine?

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am not sure why more people aren't talking about this?.

  the march 15 study edition of the wt has some major changes!

  - all unbiblical "types and antitypes" are now dropped.

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  Bungi Bill

  these days, the majority of the R&F couldn't list the finer points of WT eschatology if their lives depended on it

  That phrase probably nails it. These days, very few JWs can explain what it is that they are supposed to believe:

  - something that they once used to harshly criticise the "Churches of Christendom" for.

  As a consequence, I would hazard to guess that most doctrinal shifts such as these ones would go clean over the heads of the vast majority of the R&F.

  Bill
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  1975 failed prediction?

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heyo,.

  your favorite garrett here.

  so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

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  If you answer imperfect men, the. What stops the other religions from using the same excuses?

  Apparently, being wrong is a prerogative only of the WTS/GB.

  If any other religious group is wrong, it is false doctrine, and they are in for the big chop come Armageddon. (No ifs, buts or maybes about that!)

  However, if the JWs were wrong about something, "The Society (or GB) will correct itself" and it is merely just another example of the "New Light" that keeps getting "brighter and brighter". That excuse applies to no other religious group though - let it be noted!

  Bill
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  Online version of "Reasoning from the Scriptures" has deleted preaching reference to Muslims

  by jwleaks in

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  2. bible

  the online version of "reasoning from the scriptures" has deleted the entry under "conversation stoppers" for when someone says "i'm a muslim".. online reasoning book.

  for the record, this is what has been removed:.

  *** rs pp.

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  Bungi Bill

  Or, as in most Muslim countries, it is not allowed to preach to Muslims.

  I know for a fact that in Malaysia, the JWs do not make any attempt to witness to Muslims. One Malaysian JW once explained to us that all it would take was just one instance of a JW attempting to witness to a Muslim, and the Witnesses would be banned in that country.

  Talk about "fearlessly preaching the word" and "giving a through witness"!

  Bill.
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  Who REALLY believed in the idea of living forever on earth??

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  seriously.....even when you were 100% in "the truth", did you really believe in living forever?

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  Not proud to admit to it, but yes - I did once believe that one, too.

  Bill
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  Is door to door activity over?

  by badcompany in

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  just curious about others experience.

  i've been living just a few miles from a kingdom hall for 9 years.

  i've been called on 0 times.

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  Bungi Bill

  Cults are attractive to kids who love to argue and fight with us ignorant parents.

  A little off topic, but thanks for that piece of insight, PokerPlayerPhil. At last, I am now starting to get an understanding about something that has puzzled me for several decades:

  - i.e. how it was that this particular bloody cult managed to ensnare me!

  Otherwise, yes, their door to door activity is still operating. A pair of them were at my door last week, but turned around and walked straight back out again upon noticing the "Unsolicited Sales Callers Not Welcome" sticker.

  Bill
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  Article in The Guardian - Faith no more: how the British are losing their religion. Mentions JWs

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2015/apr/14/british-christianity-trouble-religion-comeback .

  the british have lost faith in religion much faster and more completely than they have lost faith in god.

  the most recent survey to show this comes from win/gallup, which found that britain appeared one of the most irreligious countries on earth, with only 30% calling themselves religious.

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  Secularism need not stifle economic growth, as witness the case of China, whose economy is outperforming both those of Europe and America - and yet (according to that Win-Gallup poll) whose population is at least 60% atheist.

  Not, too, that the percentage of China's population that identified themselves as atheist (60%) far exceeds that of Britain's (13%). That would strongly suggest that the British population has retained a belief in God, but has had a complete fill of religion (I wonder why!)

  Bill.